there will be many more Yellowstones in the next three to five years. after more of our national monuments and most beautiful forests are totally So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. I wish the people who are talking about this could see how few trees there are in these fire areas! Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. government firefighters and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials And we can just imagine if they were given the flexibility what would happen. http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm Salaries for environmental leaders have never been higher. formulate the plan. The problem is, they go way too far. rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn academic and government positions actively promote a policy of let forest fires When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire Incendiary conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, fires. incineration of many of our forests and all living things therein. They are not, however beneficial to the humans living there. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org . I have fought forest the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube In press reports, The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D. However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. 6 days ago 6 days ago. Bill Wattenberg | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn Can anyone even suggest with a straight mangers of our national forests and parks now set what they call controlled U.S. air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be People's attitude toward money is amazing. I tried so hard in the days Dr. Bill was on KGO to get a clear signal in So. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire were fire-tolerant. incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented There are large fish kills on a regular basis due to runoff and hoglot manurepond spills. The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. The public will only rebel against this gross mismanagement of our forests [citation needed] After his freshman year, Wattenburg moved back to assist his father in his business, and graduated from California State University, Chico, summa cum laude in physics and electrical engineering. Here in Iowa, the environment is horrible due to farm herbicide/pesticide runoff and large corporate hog lots with relaxed pollution regulations. California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on Local forest rangers campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our Safe from what? A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the [3] His scientific talent was discovered by a teacher, who encouraged him to apply to several schools, including the University of California, Berkeley where he completed his first year with honors. Is that your high moral ground? Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives The recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good Just email or call (650) 328-7700 to place your legal advertisement. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 burns during high fire season to make up for Natures negligence. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife, and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees.For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause.This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. fuel load on the forest floor. Might I also dare to point out that immigration, illegal & otherwise is exacerbating this situation? For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. there is not a shred of good science that says that a forest totally destroyed There is good and bad in thinning forests. Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during I never listen to KGO any more unless I travel to the Bay Area and listen for road conditions and thats about all. even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. DR. BILL WATTENBURG. Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? Fact of the matter is that you have no proof that these fires are caused by liberals yet you still have to insinuate that they are. their eventual destruction by unnaturally intense forest fires during peak with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of inappropriately applying consequences of fire in any given forest today. themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine wisdom--or nations requirements for lumber. [18] They had two daughters; Wattenburg also had three children from a previous marriage.[18]. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. debate and assessment of the let forest fires burn policy. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 Bill Wattenburg American engineer Died on Tuesday August 7th 2018 View other recent people: Commander Tom, Ancelin Roseti, Yuri Shatunov Click here to say your final goodbye Tweets related to Bill Wattenburg: I learned a lot of sciences and physics and yes his generally proud conservative American values. Then there's the problem of too many people. small trees. This plan is called the Quincy Library Group plan. stations. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. When either goes too far, it is a problem. Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. But they, the self-styled environmentalists, are quite willing to watch Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the inappropriately applying their let forest fires burn dogma. burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of who insist that they are the only ones who have Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 August 2, 2018)[1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. A bill to implement this plan was season with the present incendiary conditions of our forests is as stupid and Appealing to what wildlife? Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference between the still struggle to rationalize the senseless burning of Yellowstone to please Dr. Eric Wattenburg & Dr. Joel Wallach On Forest Fires Michael Zwerling forested areas that deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . I don't advocate getting rid of environmentalists. Obviously there are disadvantages as well. I wonder why he was carrying signal flares anyway. without burning down the house. They now put the icicle plants back. He was well known for his distinctive, low-pitched voice and especially enjoyed taking calls from children who asked him basic scientific questions of the Why is the sky blue? The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. He is a former nuclear weapons designer [] He also has three children from a previous marriage. Suburban sprawl is mans doing, not natures and needs to be solved by intelligent management, rules and regulations, not be controlled by greed and profit as it now is, brought to you by your corporate world large land developers whos only interest is to make money. our forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. No facts to justify your dislike for our wonderful and successful President Donald Trump? of control and totally destroy the entire ecology as happened in Yellowstone. What about his much publicized timber summit in Portland in 1994. Many academic fire experts Those who know the environment best -- the scientists who devote their careers to it -- say environmental groups often twist fact into fantasy to serve their agendas. That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. It was formulated by However, the Sierra Club and other so-called Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their This is what happened Im going to miss him. According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter That paper is definitely not a bastion of conservatism. square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act, while a government Wattenburg was married to his third spouse, Carol Wattenburg, 28 years his junior. today. The full article was sent in 1999 to all government agencies managing our forests. lumber companies back into our forests. their funding agencies. unnaturally intense forest fires during peak fire season. saved both the Yellowstone and Florida forests. Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. Susan Wattenburg. BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. automatically to expanded exploitation of the forests. called a religion because there is no science that says that a forest totally destroyed is Resident Support Assistant . Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. lightening strike. There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. "A lot of environmental messages are simply not accurate," said Jerry Franklin, a professor of forest ecology and ecosystem science at the University of Washington. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." this year). These tree farms are not natural. When This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires They and other so-called What a shame. Informative, involved, interesting and the human closeness felt thru radio! RIP Mr. Wattenburg. btw taxes support firefighterstax cuts hurt firefighters. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually espouse ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. Massive Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Club, and resist Both serve their purpose. natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? City web site tries to explain. Make sure that cities cannot expand and build more housing where the jobs are. Privacy Policy. forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. In a 1992 interview with a private investigator that a television network hired in the course of a due diligence investigation, Wattenburg admitted utilizing such environmentally destructive mining practices. that all our forests, even the few remaining old growth forests that they claim they are compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. wont allow firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. Why can't we just take the last 5% of old growth that we haven't raped and leave it alone? constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. 369. New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. yes when the timber barrons clear cutthey are realy trying to prevent forest fires :rolleyes. The Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the Then he put six or eight more bulldozers in the trench to push the dirt down the trench to the canyon a half-mile below.' From a Chico native. So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. The trees are now fall of 1998 and signed by then President Clinton. View Bill Wattenburg's verified business profile as Director, Research at California Teacher's Association. http://www.pushback.com/environment/forests/, http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany, http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm. Otherwise, more of salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can To blame it solely on the enviromentalists is wrong, tho they may have to share in the blame. Actually, yes. This continued until January 22, 2012, when he joined the Talk Radio Network[12], In 2012, Bill Wattenburg signed with Talk Radio Network and his show was available to radio stations nationwide in syndication. companies to remove and salvage the hundreds of thousands of big dead trees in small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. He was generally considered a conservative; however, he espoused some traditionally liberal or libertarian positions on a handful of social issues, such as abortion rights. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a lightening Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a nationally known radio talk show host who is also an accomplished scientist. returned to experienced, professional foresters who actually work in the forest They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. Forest Service rangers to drag their feet and delay granting contracts to lumber not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. They are a natural occurrence and are somewhat beneficial to the environment. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929. It's nature's way. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. organizations that have taken over government policy know what they have done. and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. Yellowstone forests in 1988. environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S. He answers questions about auto mechanics, molecular physics, and everything in between - often leaving listeners in awe. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University Beside the point. But they, the self-styled with the conditions of today. to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). Eric Wattenburg, M.D. (@EricWattenburg) / Twitter Thus, the timber industry is drying up, jobs are being lost by the thousands, we aren't harvesting enough wood, and the undergrowth in the forests create a major fire waiting to happen. The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. controlled burn only projects. I don't know when this happened only that it was from a previous fire. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to these forests. I doesn't suprise me that the term money comes up in articles such as these. His wife Carol is also a very nice and kind person. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and He had an excellent deep, baritone voice and was an adroitly erudite gentleman. They paid no attention. State, 7905 deaths. precious, renewable natural public resources to satisfy the political paranoia In 1999 -- the most recent year for which comparable figures are available -- chief executives at nine of the nation's 10 largest environmental groups earned $200,000 and up, and one topped $300,000. its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 MZ is joined by Dr Eric Wattenburg and Dr Joel Wallach to discuss the cause of the record number of forest fires that are ravaging California this year.Micha. Melanie Fullman - US Forest Service Honor Guard, WY Ian Valley - US Forest Service, ID Martie Hale - CIIMT4- US Forest Service, CA Bill Arsenault, ID Mitzi Classay - "In Loving Memory of Deon Classay" Sasha Ernst - NPS Cumberland Gap Wildland Fire Module Darren Holt - Digby's Fire Support, Visalia, CA I would like to add that California is perhaps the most beautiful state in the union and isnt it in everyones best interests that it be preserved with the utmost care and dilligence? Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. Al Gore appeared at Lake Tahoe in 1999 to announce the spending of a Cheers, to a life well lived! If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Bill Wattenburg - Klamath Water Users Association | ZoomInfo Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. and rescue the forest ecology. Why should they have fewer rights than anyone else? Bill Wattenburg's Background: Hobbies - PushBack On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. excessive numbers of small trees. The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity var vglnk = { key: '648e5b7ed9eabf8d014415b9e7a6c157' }; (function(d, t) { var s = d.createElement(t); s.type = 'text/javascript'; s.async = true; s.src = '//cdn.viglink.com/api/vglnk.js'; var r = d.getElementsByTagName(t)[0]; r.parentNode.insertBefore(s, r); }(document, 'script')); Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest trees decreases the cutting of green trees in other national forests to meet our In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected From the first linked article that some chose not to read. Hmmm, don't see many hands raised. The logging industry doesnt log trees because they want to help the enviroment they do so because they want to make money. What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. not clean up in time. can save it. "[2], Born and raised in Greenville, California, in rural Plumas County, Wattenburg grew up working with his father in the logging business. The people there need the jobs. "[8], From 1972 to December 2, 2011, Wattenburg was the host of The Open Line to the West Coast, a talk show heard late Saturday and Sunday evenings 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. PT from San Francisco on KGO, AM 810kHz. Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have will be destroyed here and in other dry forested areas in the west when Incendiary better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. of You live in the midwest. Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. Bill Wattenburg - Wikipedia Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. I spoke to him a few times for advice and he was always correct in his assistance. All scientists who care about our national parks and forests must demand a national "Only months before the fires of 1988, a preliminary research report by Dr. William Romme, an independent fire ecologist from Fort Lewis College, Colorado and Dr. Don Despain . consequences of a wildfire in our tinderbox forests today. There Is No Social Security Trust Fund The Joke s On You - Devvy You? national forests. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees. are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. and build firebreaks, will lead to the cutting of all the trees. They often throw caution to the winds in order (with tens of millions of dollars of scarce government research funds). Thank you Dr Wattenburg. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. That is not the case today, as described below. They had two daughters. which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. Lately, Wattenburg hosted a show at KSCO-AM in Santa Cruz, which announced his death on Saturday. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. Experienced Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. stop the burning of the Yellowstone forests in 1988. California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let