He perhaps worded somethings poorly perhaps, but he is completely turned off by your attitude and responses Steve. I believe being separate is doing what God has commanded you to do. The tradition of men, human opinion, false science, religious creeds, nor popular opinion override the plain teaching of God's Word. [14], Tarrant County, Texas preacher Dillon Awes attracted considerable controversy for advocating that "every single homosexual" in America be lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head. You obviously didnt read the entire list see number 47. 9. I personally fall under Southern Missionary Baptist, and literally had questions in regards to my recent visits at an IFB church. 24. (II Corinthians 12:12; I Corinthians 13:8; Hebrews 2:3-4; Mark 16:17-20; I Corinthians 1:22, 14:21-22). If you believe that using guitars in church is too liberal, yet you listen to patch the pirate who uses guitars, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 14. But I did want to let you know that although some ifb churches may not be the best it doesnt make us a cult. Those who judge people like that WILL BE judged the same way, PERIOD. There are a lot of IFB pastors out there like that, the majority of the ones I sat under were like that, they just want to see you do better. 2. Please dont mistake this for a lack of respect or an attempt to minimize the seriousness of the abuse that happens among the Independent Fundamental Bapitsts. Youre supposed to read the word daily, it says give us this day our daily bread. Every time I got to a low point in my life, I knew that I could count on the church to be there for me. Matthew 6:14-15 is a warning not a command. Amen! If you think that anything other than what your church teaches about salvation is easy believism, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Did I have to marry him because I forgave him? I didnt condemn other version by saying Kjv is inspired. That doesnt necessarily mean they arent a dangerous cult. I had no idea that I, as an IFB, might be guilty of these things. If you believe that everyone who opposes IFB doctrine is just bitter, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 48. If you believe that attending an IFB church is the only way to hear the true gospel and get saved, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 36. N/A 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. The establishment and continuance of local churches is clearly taught and defined in te New Testa ment Scriptures (Acts 14:27; 20:17, 28-32; I Timothy 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-11). God cant forgive you if Jesus didnt save you. You had to wear a tie if you wanted to preach or preside over the Lords Supper. If you are really interested in finding out about my poor experiences with the IFB please read the website rather than make assumptions. BTW, tithing isnt a Biblical teaching for NT Christians. Section 1: General This is a sovereign and democratic independent fundamental Baptist church under the Lordship of Jesus Christ. 11 The greatest among you must be a servant. That may mean dressing appropriately and not dis honoring your body because its a holy temple. That apparently is what Christ would do. We didnt go, but they came back the next week. I actually looked up the word just now (Random House Websters College Dictionary), and here are the definitions: 3.) 6 Dont waste what is holy on people who are unholy. Copyright 2002-2023 Got Questions Ministries. I was told that I could not work in one of my passionate ministries, infant, toddler, and 3-4 year olds because of something I did in my past 14 years ago and pastor told me I have to prove myself first. If you think that other than suits and ties for men is too casual for Sundays While I dont believe that you must dress up for church with suits and ties, however, I do believe we should honor God in His house by dressing up. Jesus saved by dying on the cross in my husbands place. When I read what you have written, I sense that you are bitter, hurt, angry, and possibly disillusioned. 4,2, and 7 month old. Well Pastor Wilkerson is no longer here, and welllll.as far as Im concerned will never be the same. And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. Pastor and his wife paid for reception, photographers, and and shower. Believers will be caught up to be with the Lord prior to the seven years of tribulation, and at the end of the tribulation Christ will return with His saints to establish His thousand-year reign on the earth (I Thessalonians 4:13-18; Titus 2:13; I Thessalonians 1:10; Revelation 3:10; Zechariah 14:4-11; Revelation 19:11-16, 20:1-6; Psalm 89:3-4). operating or proceeding inconspicuously but with grave effect. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? If you think anything other than a suit and tie for men is too casual for Sundays, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 11. Of course these cultural attachments border on the cultic, no doubt are legalistic, and hopefully will disappear eventually as the old guard depart their bondage in this life for Glory! I believe the Bible, and if you do not believe the Bible and hate what the Bible teaches, it is because your opinion is more important to you, than what the Bible says, and if that be so, then there is really no reason for you to go to church in the first place. Why dont you focus on the log in your own eye then you might be able to see the speck in my eye. Happily a brainwashed Bible-folk for about 28 years with more peace in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and a firm foundation of absolute truth to stand on (yes, thats the KV, haha!). The Duggar family, so much in the news lately, are Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB), a loosely affiliated, singularly cultish denomination of My birth mother is a Catholic she didnt raise me. If you want a discussion ask for one. If you think that you can be a better Christian or have more favor with the Lord with good performance You cant make up for sins nor can salvation be earned. These are right on the money! Some of these are very much right on the money. If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week (Sunday mornings, Sunday evenings, and Wednesday evenings for Bible studies which I will assume) I cant agree with this, you must attend at least one. Whether we worship with hymns or hands int he air praise and worship songs, we are all suppose to be on the same side. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? Israel was the prodical.. judah is the elder son that was jealous of israel.. Study The prodigal son and the two houses of Israel. We even have TWO. Yes, believers disagree, theres nothing wrong with that. If your pastor preaches against smoking because it is bad for the body but is himself an obese glutton, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 25. If you are careful to not show any emotion while singing for fear that you could be considered dancing, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 33. 19 How blind! You can read some of the experiences here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. They are as tragic as they are true and yes the IFB movement went ver overboard on many standards and traditions. The Bible is inspired and preserved by God and carries His absolute authority. That being said, your list is probably only funny to those of us who have lived it. The New IFB does not consider itself to be a denomination. That makes no sense. You might be an independent Fundamental Baptist if. 13 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. 49. No one is "born into the church." My writing tends to be somewhat heavy and serious so every once in a while I like to add some humor to lighten things up a bit. 55. I rarely post on random pages I stumbled upon but by his reaction, he didnt think Dave intended to be offensive to prove a point. [5], New IFB pastors have been the subjects of controversy on numerous occasions. If your church sings Just As I Am at the end of every service We sing that song once in a while since its a good invitational song. We believe that the souls of the redeemed are, at death, absent from the body and present with the Lord, where in conscious bliss they await the first resurrection, when spirit, soul, and body are reunited to be glorified forever with the Lord (Luke 23:43; Revelation 20:4-6; II Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:23, 3:21; I Thessalonians 4:16-17). Most people find it hard to swallow that anyone really thinks that way at all. Yes, we have strife and faults and hypocrites. From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. Theres a place to rebuke abusive religious practices. Since God looks at Jesus to forgive Ill look at Jesus also to forgive. WebIndependent Fundamental Baptist churches have fellowship one with the other and often cooperate in such endeavors as evangelism. You consider it a personal failure if you are not able to find a verse within ten seconds, and secretly proud if you are able to find it right away. I respond to IFB jabs, sometimes that requires a jab back. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 5 Everything they do is for show. (Genesis 2:24; Romans 7:2; 1 Corinthians 7:10; Ephesians 5:22-23), We believe that God expressly forbids intimate sexual activity be engaged in outside of a marriage between one man and one woman. We just look for a biblical church to go to. We believe education in the world is good, but the teaching of evolution needs to be addressed if the individual is a little kid as false doctrine. Most Americans dont understand that there are flavors of Baptist Christianity, everything from liberal to hardcore Fundamentalist. To be brought back to the norm of what being a Christian is all about. If you think that secular music (i.e., anything other than old time gospel hymns) is sinful, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 19. The abuse would continue and they would be dead and their child would be in foster care. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. Are these points form the KJV Bible or is it carved from the principles from scriptures. Maybe one day I can reach your level of acceptance and spirituality. What if it had been biting you for 5, 10, 15, or (in my case) 25 years and you managed to finally escape would you go back or send a love one to pet it? As God's priests, we can study His Word, pray for our needs, intercede for others, offer worship, and serve in His work. Lol. Who are the Independent Baptists, and what do they believe? The IFB is the one who is hurting the cause of Christ, just like the Pharisees did. A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith around mutual interests or ministry opportunities, but one church cannot exert authority over another. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? Everything is about Him, He is a jealous God. The New IFB's website lists its core doctrines as salvation by faith alone, once saved always saved, King James Bible-only, the Trinity, soul-winning, "hard" preaching, prewrath post-tribulation rapture, and opposition of worldliness, Calvinism, dispensationalism, liberalism, and Zionism. What Jesus did on the cross is for our salvation. Hypocrites! This list are things that are unique to the IFB. My husband sinned, and wanted forgiveness. Much to their horror, they could not find a church that had a Wednesday night service anywhere in the area. Fannin was later ejected as the lead preacher of SBC-Jax. My jabs are defensive in nature. Does he always heal people no. Thats not unique to the IFB. As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated congregations on its website, most in the U.S. with some in Australia, Canada, the Philippines and South Africa. We believe that God forbids any attempt to alter one's God-given gender identity by any means, including surgery or appearance. I can not forgive sins! If your church encouraged you to make your own decision about becoming baptized, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. We wanted help and we wanted to know what the Bible said.